Podcast Ep 52: It’s Not Always Depression with Hilary Jacobs Hendel, LCSW 

 
 

“Emotions” like anxiety and depression are often cover emotions for deeper emotions like grief and anger – and working through our resistance to these emotions so we can arrive at our “core” emotions can help us access our calm, compassionate self. In this episode, I bring on emotions educator Hilary Jacobs Hendel, author of “It’s Not Always Depression,” to give you tangible tools for working through anxiety and depression to have a richer emotional experience.

Some extra resources:

Why Can’t I Shut Off My Mind? https://www.hilaryjacobshendel.com/post/2018/03/03/why-can-t-i-shut-off-my-mind

It’s Not Always Depression, Sometimes It’s Shame (NYT OpEd): https://www.hilaryjacobshendel.com/its-not-always-depression-sometimes-its-

It’s Not Always Depression: Working the Change Triangle to Listen to the Body, Discover Core Emotions, and Connect With Your Authentic Self (Random House & Penguin UK):

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Not-Always-Depression-Authentic/dp/0399588140/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3UXPWILNH27FU&keywords=its+not+always+depression+by+hilary+jacobs+hendel&qid=1673190622&sprefix=%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-1

Print out the Change Triangle: https://www.hilaryjacobshendel.com/print-the-change-triangle

Facilitate Emotions Education 101 Classes with the Emotions Education 101 Turnkey Curriculum: https://www.hilaryjacobshendel.com/ee101-train-the-trainer-course

Who we are:

Natalie Kennedy @Anxiouslovecoach

Hilary Jacobs Hendel @Hilaryjacobshendel

Time Stamps:

  • 17:20- Gaining control on how your emotions are expressed in your relationship

  • 26:40- What is the “change triangle”?

  • 32:00- How “inhibitory” emotions such as anxiety push down core emotions

  • 35:00- How many people use thinking to avoid feeling emotions in the body

  • 36:45-Being able to process the grief of possible loss in your relationship

  • 41:10- What are you experiencing in your body when you feel relationship anxiety?

  • 48:50- Feeling the “healing emotions”

  • 54:25- Depression as a “defense”